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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments! Your public school education is evident in all its glory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments! Your public school education is evident in all its glory.</p>
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		<title>By: WeaselSpleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>WeaselSpleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Blah blah blah EVOLUTION!! blah blah blah MARXISM!!
blah blah blah LIBERALS!! blah blah blah NAZIS!! Blah blah blah MARXIST LIBERAL COMMIE EVOLUTION NAZIS!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blah blah blah EVOLUTION!! blah blah blah MARXISM!!<br />
blah blah blah LIBERALS!! blah blah blah NAZIS!! Blah blah blah MARXIST LIBERAL COMMIE EVOLUTION NAZIS!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, all of them state very clearly that Darwin is an essential complement to Marx, including Loren Graham. Of course, Darwin is always subordinated to Marx. The Soviets and all of their American and British sympathizers, and every marxist theorist up to this day, proudly include evolutionary theory in Soviet ideology and marxist philosophy, because it shows how scientific and modern they are. 

As you have pointed out, however, communists abhorred Darwin&#039;s bourgeois associations; but so do modern liberals. Communists also explicitly denied the principle of the &quot;struggle between the species,&quot; as do most modern biologists, who favor the principle of ecological balance. Additionally, communists explicitly disassociated communism and marxism with any Nazi ideology, such as eugenics. If you would like to suggest that eugenics is essential to evolutionary theory, I think that would put you in rather a bind. 

Ed, I hope someday you will read Mayr&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Growth of Biological Thought&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;One Long Argument&lt;/i&gt;. You really need to refine your perspective on the various threads of evolutionary theories and how they have changed over the years. There is no shame in admitting that evolutionary theories have changed; most evolutionists consider it a positive feature.

Please accept my sincere wish that you become more familiar with both the history and the science of evolutionary theories so that you can present your case more effectively in the future. You may not always have the luxury of discussing these things with someone that you can easily dismiss as a crackpot or a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, all of them state very clearly that Darwin is an essential complement to Marx, including Loren Graham. Of course, Darwin is always subordinated to Marx. The Soviets and all of their American and British sympathizers, and every marxist theorist up to this day, proudly include evolutionary theory in Soviet ideology and marxist philosophy, because it shows how scientific and modern they are. </p>
<p>As you have pointed out, however, communists abhorred Darwin&#8217;s bourgeois associations; but so do modern liberals. Communists also explicitly denied the principle of the &#8220;struggle between the species,&#8221; as do most modern biologists, who favor the principle of ecological balance. Additionally, communists explicitly disassociated communism and marxism with any Nazi ideology, such as eugenics. If you would like to suggest that eugenics is essential to evolutionary theory, I think that would put you in rather a bind. </p>
<p>Ed, I hope someday you will read Mayr&#8217;s <i>The Growth of Biological Thought</i> or <i>One Long Argument</i>. You really need to refine your perspective on the various threads of evolutionary theories and how they have changed over the years. There is no shame in admitting that evolutionary theories have changed; most evolutionists consider it a positive feature.</p>
<p>Please accept my sincere wish that you become more familiar with both the history and the science of evolutionary theories so that you can present your case more effectively in the future. You may not always have the luxury of discussing these things with someone that you can easily dismiss as a crackpot or a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;First of all, no historian or philosopher that I can find, including those recommended by Ed, has ever shown that Soviet communist leaders rejected evolutionary theory in principle. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nor can any historian or philosopher you can find say that Soviet communist leaders accepted evolutionary theory in principle.

You&#039;re making the assertions here.  You&#039;ve got a burden of proof that simply isn&#039;t being met.

To the contrary, the evidence of the exiling and firing of Darwinian evolution supporters is incontrovertible.  

Your abuse of Mayr&#039;s writing is quite reprehensible.  You fail to note that Mayr is one of the great defenders of Darwinian theory in the 20th century, and you present him instead as a falsifier of Darwinian theory, which is an absolutely false claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First of all, no historian or philosopher that I can find, including those recommended by Ed, has ever shown that Soviet communist leaders rejected evolutionary theory in principle. </p></blockquote>
<p>Nor can any historian or philosopher you can find say that Soviet communist leaders accepted evolutionary theory in principle.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re making the assertions here.  You&#8217;ve got a burden of proof that simply isn&#8217;t being met.</p>
<p>To the contrary, the evidence of the exiling and firing of Darwinian evolution supporters is incontrovertible.  </p>
<p>Your abuse of Mayr&#8217;s writing is quite reprehensible.  You fail to note that Mayr is one of the great defenders of Darwinian theory in the 20th century, and you present him instead as a falsifier of Darwinian theory, which is an absolutely false claim.</p>
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